County Judge Wants Mailboxes Moved Away from Roads

Last updated Wednesday, November 12, 2008 11:45 PM CST in News

By Christopher Spencer
THE MORNING NEWS

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    FAYETTEVILLE - When a car hits a mailbox, the mailbox should never win, Washington County Judge Jerry Hunton said.

    The judge will propose an emergency ordinance today to the Quorum Court requiring mailboxes on county roads be built at least 2 feet back from the road and made of materials that can't stop a car.

    Emergency ordinances take effect from the moment of passage.

    The ordinance would ban masonry mailboxes - a preferred construction technique on high-end rural homes. Existing mailboxes would not be affected.

    "I'm shocked to hear about that," said Lisa Johnson, owner and president of Crowne Designs of Fayetteville, a company that builds homes with masonry mailboxes. "I can't even imagine that they would spend their time worrying about that."

    Masonry mailboxes are often built because they are required by neighborhood covenant in rural subdivisions, she said.

    Liz Mitchell moved into her home in the Overton Park subdivision between Fayetteville and Goshen about two months ago. The home features a red brick mailbox adjacent to the curb of Maywood Road.

    She said the judge's proposal adds unnecessary regulation to residents in the county.

    Lisa Ware lives on North Gulley Road near Mitchell. Her stone and cement mailbox is part of a line of such mailboxes along a straight-away where motorists often break the speed limit, she said.

    "I think people need to stay on the road. Sorry," Ware said. County officials should do more to enforce speeding laws in the area, not force landowners to build weaker mailboxes, she said.

    Ware walks around her neighborhood and said she sees people, especially younger drivers, talking on their cell phones and driving too fast for the occasional sharp turns that pop up on the road. She said she has seen neighbors' masonry mailboxes shifted off their foundations in the past, presumably after being struck by a car.

    Hunton said the ordinance is meant to prevent injury or death to a driver or passenger who might strike one of these fortified mailboxes. He said he is sympathetic to those whose mailbox has been vandalized in the past, but thinks the safety issues outweigh those concerns.

    The ordinance requires mailboxes be built with light sheet metal or plastic and the structure be only strong enough to support a mailbox. The only reflective material allowed on the mailbox will be the address. Outside of the county's right-of-way on county roads, the homeowner is free to build as they wish.

    "We're doing this with the smallest hammer in the shop," Hunton said.

    MEETING INFORMATION

    Washington County Quorum Court

    When: 7 p.m. today

    Where: Washington County Courthouse, 280 N. College Ave., Fayetteville

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    JumboJet wrote on Nov 13, 2008 7:14 AM:

    " "Outside of the county's right-of-way on county roads, the homeowner is free to build as they wish."

    Who is the 'county'? The people! It is time government entities step back and realize where the power comes from.

    People will save lives when "they" drive responsibly. There are other hazards on county right-of-ways that potentially can take lives also. Are you removing all of those? "

    NWAHOGALUM wrote on Nov 13, 2008 7:36 AM:

    " Keep your car on the road as it should be and this is not an issue. Why should I be responsible for your safety? "

    whatthe? wrote on Nov 13, 2008 8:08 AM:

    " what's needed is proper(large) and visible addressing on those boxes or posts! Emergency response people have a hard enough time finding places they're needed to be without it. "

    riptide wrote on Nov 13, 2008 8:12 AM:

    " So did the judge total his car hitting a mailbox? His wife? Kid? This did not come out of no where. This is pretty sad stuff here. "

    Lone Star wrote on Nov 13, 2008 8:45 AM:

    " Is this some sort of early April Fool's joke?! "

    BCR wrote on Nov 13, 2008 8:55 AM:

    " Evidently Mr. "Judge" has never had HIS mailbox whacked 7 times with a baseball bat by a bunch of drunk teenagers playing mailbox baseball!!! I have. At least, per the article, "existing mailboxes will not be affected". For now.
    If you don't want to smack up your nice car, slow down, stop talking and drinking coffee while you drive, and do your very very best to try and stay on the road. "

    lesnparts wrote on Nov 13, 2008 8:57 AM:

    " jerry you have finally ,completely lost it. your'e talking about thousands
    of mail boxes? how much special interest money is in this and who's the most recent idiot pulling your chain? Or maybe its really been this long since you landed back on earth!
    have you heard of the united states postal service...a little higher on the food chain than graesy valley judge. "

    BCR wrote on Nov 13, 2008 9:08 AM:

    " Are Judges required to take intelligence tests before running for office? If not, they should, and the test scores should be listed on the ballot. "

    wldflwr wrote on Nov 13, 2008 9:08 AM:

    " This is cause for emergency? This is the best you've got? Mailboxes? You've been in office for how many years? And now, all of a sudden, mailboxes have become an emergency? Leave the county residents alone and get a life. "

    Capo-Di-Tuti-Capi wrote on Nov 13, 2008 9:21 AM:

    " Wait, Wait, Wait... There are already FEDERAL LAWS and GUIDELINES in regards to Rural and Urban Mailboxes. When can a County Judge superceed the US Government???? Can the Tax Payer then take a Tax Right off, or call for special legilative money with the kids that go around beating mailboxes EVERY Weekend destroy a weak and set back mailbox?
    How is the Postman supposed to deliver mail to a box 2 feet back from the road? So, now, the county right of way of 12 to 15 feet was not enough, you want MORE of MY land that I paid for?

    Dear Judge,
    Enough is enough. You need to know when to say stop, not keep asking "Please sir, may I have another."

    As my dear dead grandmaw used to say, "Give em an inch" "

    willybill wrote on Nov 13, 2008 10:01 AM:

    " Please Jerry you been voted out let the incoming judge deal with this. We lived outside the city and had our mail box destroyed 5 times by kids hitting them with a baseball bat it only took one time of pouring the pipe full of concrete and placing a concrete block inside the box and it ceased immediately. The county needs to spend more time on the parking problems at the court house and less time on mail boxes. "

    BCR wrote on Nov 13, 2008 1:44 PM:

    " Maybe the Quorum court will consider the fact that this idea is coming from a lame-duck. Course, considering the QC, they may just pass it... "

    JumboJet wrote on Nov 13, 2008 3:07 PM:

    " Reminds me of a story I read -

    "Daddy, mom just ran over my bicycle again!".

    "Look son, I told you to stop leaving your bike on the porch!" "

    cybertech wrote on Nov 13, 2008 3:08 PM:

    " I have to agree with others here. This is totally ludicrous!

    I dont live in out on a county road but have driven my share of them and watched how some people drive on them.

    If someone hits a mailbox its not the mailbox's fault nor is it the fault of the owner of the mailbox, its the fault of the driver whom was most likely not only driving way to fast and not paying attention.

    Whats next, they start ticketing owners instead of the people the hit the mailboxes????

    I will tell you this much, if I did live on a county road, or in a place where curbside mailboxes were allowed, I, as a taxpaying property owner would build the mailbox how ever I dang well pleased!

    Its time that these officials realize who the heck pays their salary and stop trying to pass bogus legislation and wasting taxpayer money, enough is enough already! "

    cybertech wrote on Nov 13, 2008 3:13 PM:

    " ***********WARNING TO ALL DRIVERS!!!**********

    Beware of Mailboxes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    It has been confirmed that there is a new bread of jumping mailbox that has become a cause of great concern for motorists!!

    These mailboxes not only jump right out in front of your car they also put up a danged good fight and usually win!!!!!!!


    LOL

    This judge is a real dolt!!!! "

    cybertech wrote on Nov 13, 2008 3:14 PM:

    " Word Correction bread was supposed to be breed. lol my bad "

    sunflowerboat wrote on Nov 13, 2008 3:35 PM:

    " Jerry has lost it I assume Ozark Electric will have to move all transmission poles that are in line with the mailboxes "

    ozarks wrote on Nov 14, 2008 1:11 PM:

    " Well, if the QC passes this it is not olny the judges fault, it is their fault too! "

    cybertech wrote on Nov 16, 2008 9:22 AM:

    " Hey?? Did anyone happen to pick up on something wrong in the picture for this article??? Like that car driving down the wrong side of the road!! LOL

    They must have bounced off that armored mailbox in the picture! LOL "

    Gramps wrote on Nov 16, 2008 12:29 PM:

    " Well, I see that the censors at the News removed my comment. Guess the truth hurts. But as I said, it is time that this "toy" Judge realizes that he has overstepped his bounds and the QC is made to realize that they serve and represent the people, not the Judge who has lost his mind. Both had better check the Federal Postal Guidelines. "

    Twinkie wrote on Nov 16, 2008 1:01 PM:

    " Gramps,

    This is the original Nov. 12 story. Your comment didn't get deleted; it's on the 11/14 story, which is not listed on the front web page for easy access. "

    Gramps wrote on Nov 20, 2008 11:29 AM:

    " Thanks Twinkie. I guess I'm just getting too old for all this blogging... "


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